And we heard mention that consultation is really good, but would you not say that consultation should then lead to action? And in this case, the action would be the development of the social contract bond, or something of that sort, and that's the action you'd take. But you'd make sure that in that action, in the social impact bond, you'd have measurability. In other words, you're able to assess whether or not it's achieving the goals.
And would you not agree that for anyone who's investing money into it, including the government—which has no money other than the taxpayers' money—you'd want to make sure that they, the taxpayers in this case, are getting the best bang for their buck?
As you say, would you not agree that the partnerships are there and that the social contract bond isn't just with...? I'll try to be kind to Mr. Garrison. Profitability isn't always evil if you get good results from it. Would you say that's correct?