I want to speak about multiple interventions. When we're talking about interventions and not seeing the fruits of the labour until years down the road, how is social finance with regard to crime prevention? How do we know we're meeting targets? How do you measure targets with regard to this type of initiative?
I think that's the key. Obviously in anything we do, we invest money, but we need to make sure we're getting results. The biggest bang for the buck, obviously, is the key result for taxpayers as well.
Perhaps you could answer that, please.