But if you go back to the example I used from my community, we have programs that have moved to a space that is normally regarded as hostile by half the youth clients, because of their sexual orientation or other personal characteristics. So it's the very fact that the program had moved to a private space—even though I am not at all criticizing the operators of this new program yet, and they have made pledges that it would be open to all. But it doesn't appear open to all the clients because of the move to a private space from what was essentially a public space.
The other one we've had in our community is an organization that was largely first nations-run, which again did not have its funding renewed and the contract went to a private group to offer the same service. Their problem was that we've had years of working in the first nations community from a first nations perspective. I think the contract was shifted for an outcomes reason, saying they are looking for better outcomes, but what they are saying is being lost is the cultural sensitivity to the aboriginal programming that is not present in the private organization.