Dr. Gregory Jenion at the Public Safety and National Security Committee

Professor, Faculty, Criminology Department, Kwantlen Polytechnic University, As an Individual

On page 6 of the report that has been distributed to you, the author says this:

Given that no SIBs have yet reached the payout stage, it is not yet possible to assess whether these potential benefits will materialize.

I'm not sure if we know yet that these programs are either beneficial—that they actually have the desired outcome—and/or if they'll be sustainable.

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