Yes. That's the simple answer.
I'm aware of his presentation to you, and I am aware of his statistics. I don't know the sources of all of his statistics.
We are in the midst of working with CoSA in terms of doing an evaluation of the program that we have been funding, and that evaluation is expected to conclude in the fall. It is from there that we would be able to show what the results are after the five years of funding they received from us. Presumably, if his data holds true through our evaluation, that would be exactly the kind of program that could be promoted to partners in the community, where some sort of social finance arrangement may be possible.