As I think I tried to point out, there's a lot of activity in my department, and I wish I knew it all. I'm familiar with that program at a high level in terms of engaging youth in the downtown eastside in street employment options. I'm currently serving on the board of the Portland Hotel Society, which some of you may be familiar with, a groundbreaking group in the downtown eastside that ran a number of programs.
To support the point James just made, I think there are a lot of people out there who can understand what is effective. The idea is which of those ideas can be scaled, and how it can be done in a way that will work for the government, or for groups that can find the way to support it. I don't have the details on that particular program. I'd be happy to send them to you.