Thanks very much, Mr. Chair.
Thank you, Dr. Shaw, for being with us today. As I mentioned to you earlier, I've had the privilege of hearing you speak at an international conference. In contrast to maybe some of the earlier remarks of Mr. Richards, I think what we're looking for, and which you've done a good job of today, is that depth of experience in evaluating new programs in crime prevention. I think you've had some very interesting things to say here.
I want to go back to a couple of those things. You talked about the four approaches generally that we could work on in crime prevention. My understanding of what you're saying is that these aren't in any kind of hierarchy and that all of these are things that work. What I would ask you is, do you think we've had too much emphasis or too little emphasis on any of these in recent times in crime prevention? In other words, has there been a good balance between them, or do you see a lack of balance in the approaches being used?