Mr. Grabowsky, in the line of questioning from Mr. Payne, you indicated that the individual sees the young guy coming in and that's when he wants to take programs, but it's pretty hard to take programs when they're not available. Clearly this government's direction is that penalties rather than rehabilitation programs are basically everything. Are there more or fewer programs available? If offenders want to take programs, are they available and are they accessible?
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