Back to my beginning statement, in terms of the number of people who access programs, you've got basically 1,000 more people in the correctional system. It doesn't appear to me from the statistics I've seen that there are any more places available in CORCAN or the vocational training programs than there were in 2012, or that you have any more resources devoted to this than you did in 2012. That would mean fewer of those in the system getting the opportunity that we all know would be very positive for them.
On February 17th, 2015. See this statement in context.