Evidence of meeting #51 for Public Safety and National Security in the 41st Parliament, 2nd session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
A recording is available from Parliament.
NDP
NDP
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp
The decision of the chair was to suggest that it would not be in order at this point due to the fact that there are other people on the list.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp
That's correct.
(Ruling of the chair overturned [See Minutes of Proceedings])
The chair has been overruled, so at this point the question now will be put, in order—
NDP
Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL
Mr. Chair, on a point of order, I don't think the overruling of the chair makes the motion in order.
NDP
Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL
It's a point of order, Mr. Norlock.
One can say that someone moves a motion that is not in order—
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp
Mr. Harris, the challenge with this...and I understand your point of order, but according to the rules it is not debatable.
NDP
Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL
Having done what they did in an act of desperation, overruling you, that doesn't make the motion he now wishes to make in order.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp
Yes, it does, the reason being the chair ruled it out of order, and that decision was challenged. Therefore, had the chair ruled differently, your point would be absolutely valid, but it was not.
We will now go to Madam Doré Lefebvre.
NDP
Rosane Doré Lefebvre NDP Alfred-Pellan, QC
Mr. Chair, I would like some clarification, so that I can understand the motion before us. Is this a vote on the subamendment put forward by the parliamentary secretary or a vote on the subamendment, the amendment and the main motion?
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp
What was put before the floor was to vote, first of all on the subamendment, then on the amended amendment, and then on the motion. The chair obviously did not support it, but it was challenged, so that is where we are. Of course it is not debatable, so we will now go to the vote.
NDP
Rosane Doré Lefebvre NDP Alfred-Pellan, QC
I would like something else explained to me. We can no longer debate the amendment as amended or the main motion between votes.
Is that right?
Conservative
Conservative
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp
We'll have a recorded vote.
(Subamendment agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4) [See Minutes of Proceedings])
We will now have the vote on the amended amendment of Mr. Garrison.
