I am aware of some of the programs, and in speaking to law enforcement agencies, I have found that they have a great deal of difficulty in reaching out to the Muslim communities. They have said very clearly that doors are closed in their faces.
I'll give you an example. A few years ago I met with some law enforcement officers who said they had been called by a Pakistani family because their son had been sent to Pakistan and radicalized. When he came back, his parents wanted the law enforcement officers to speak to him, but the community told the boy not to, so the officers could not get through. They definitely need help in breaking those barriers.
It's not an easy job for law enforcement agencies to break through some of the communities' victim ideology perpetrated by the other side, these organizations that are pushing this on young people and saying that Bill C-51 is racist and Islamophobic. But as you said, it's about terrorism. It doesn't matter what colour the terrorism comes in or who is doing it.
There is a push to close the doors and make this a victim issue.