Evidence of meeting #62 for Public Safety and National Security in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was chair.
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp
Should we continue to have a dialogue like this, I think the committee could possibly plan on being here till sunrise.
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Some hon. members
Oh, oh!
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Green
Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC
Mr. Chair, you have inspired me: “Sunrise, sunset...”. I won't sing anymore.
I am promoting this amendment, a sunset provision to the act following section 28. I believe it will be in the interests of public policy and the good of this country that we revisit these things at least at the third anniversary.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp
Thank you very kindly.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
(On clause 50)
We now move on to NDP-18.
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NDP
Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca, BC
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I will say something first. We had an instruction motion before the House, which is still before the House and the House has failed to deal with, that would have allowed amendments like this to be considered in the committee, which would have seen the restoration of the inspector general. In the absence of that instruction from the House being dealt with, I fully expect you to rule it outside the scope of the bill.
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp
The way it was worded, the legislative clerk did not deem it to be out of order or inadmissible.
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NDP
Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca, BC
However, in the absence of the other amendments it makes no sense. Therefore, I withdraw the amendment.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp
Thank you very kindly.
We will now go to Liberal amendment number 12.
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Liberal
Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
This amendment relates to what SIRC can review. I believe the bill says:
the Review Committee shall, each fiscal year, review at least one aspect of the Service’s performance
We don't believe that is enough, and so we broaden it by way of this amendment, in which the committee would do a broader review and submit a report to the minister.
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Conservative
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NDP
Rosane Doré Lefebvre NDP Alfred-Pellan, QC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Although Mr. Easter's amendment was proposed with good intentions, I have to vote against the amendment because it talks about both houses of Parliament, that is, the Senate and the House of Commons. As I have said several times now, I don't think it is a good idea to get the Senate involved, because it is an unelected body.
Thank you.
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Conservative
Rick Norlock Conservative Northumberland—Quinte West, ON
Just for Madame Lefebvre's edification, every law passed in this Parliament goes through the Senate, so you might have to not vote on anything, if that's the case.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Daryl Kramp
We will call the vote.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Now we will go to the question on clause 50.
(Clause 50 agreed to)
Yes, Mr. Garrison, we can do this again, only....
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NDP
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NDP
Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca, BC
I'd like to move NDP-19, which aims at allowing info-sharing between review bodies, because the information-sharing sections we dealt with earlier ended the silos for departments, in terms of information sharing, but did not do the same for the review agencies.