Back to double bunking for a minute.
According to the Correctional Service Canada’s 2011–12 report on plans and priorities, and I'm going to quote two passages, one on page 12, “double-bunking at these levels....” These levels are now 3,000, roughly; if the minister said 15,000, then 20% is 3,000.
Double-bunking at these levels increases the risk to safety and security in institutions because of pressures that inevitably arise in crowded conditions combined with the tensions that exist among some inmate groups.
The other one is on page 19:
…in the context of anticipated increases in the offender population and the consequent rise in double bunking, CSC will be challenged to meet its targets with regard to the reduction of assaults and violent incidents in institutions.
How do you respond to that, given what we've heard already this morning? These are from your own department.