I'm not overly concerned about the secret vote. We're not a manufacturing company with 100 employees in small-town Canada, where somebody can come in and steal the collective bargaining away from the present operation. We're spread across Canada. We're not shrinking violets. Nobody is going to intimidate us when it comes to this. I don't think anybody could come in and steal the bargaining agent process. I'm not concerned. I've talked to Brian and Peter, and they're not overly concerned about that.
But we're going to have less. I say “we” because it's hard to break the habit after 35 years. The RCMP members now, if it goes as it is, will have less representation because of all the exclusions. They're going to have only pay and benefits. As you know, from 1992 to 1998 we had a pay freeze. We've had rollbacks. It went to the Supreme Court. They rolled back our wages.