John McKay at the Public Safety and National Security Committee

You'll have to ask him afterward.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

As I indicated earlier, with CPC-11, CPC-12 is also defeated.

(Clause 3 agreed to on division)

(Clauses 4 to 17 inclusive agreed to)

(Clauses 18 to 37 inclusive agreed to)

Next up is CPC-13.

Mr. Motz.