Public Safety Committee on April 24th, 2018

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

It says what he says. Proposed subsection 37(4) is his amendment.

[Michel Picard, Liberal, Montarville, QC]

My amendment is for proposed subsection 37(4) instead of proposed subsection 37(3).

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

I'm sorry. Before we go to any debate, just so I understand, you're changing proposed subsection 37(3) to a new proposed subsection 37(4).

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

That's correct.

[Blaine Calkins, Conservative, Red Deer—Lacombe, AB]

No. Actually, she's changing more than that, Mr. Chair. Ms. Damoff, are you not—

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

No.

[Blaine Calkins, Conservative, Red Deer—Lacombe, AB]

Can I finish? Actually, in your amendment it has, “That Bill C-59, in clause 76, be amended by replacing lines 8 to 10...”. You're saying “by adding after line 10 the following”. Is that what you're saying? Are you adding? Or are you replacing and adding?

[Michel Picard, Liberal, Montarville, QC]

Do you mind if I answer the question?

[Blaine Calkins, Conservative, Red Deer—Lacombe, AB]

I'm just asking. Is that...?

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

I'll have Mr. Picard answer.

[Michel Picard, Liberal, Montarville, QC]

The purpose wasn't to remove subsection 3, but to add that the notification to the commissioner be done in a timely manner. This confusion means that we can't add this to subsection 3, but instead have to create a subsection 4.

[Blaine Calkins, Conservative, Red Deer—Lacombe, AB]

I'm right. You're welcome.

[Michel Picard, Liberal, Montarville, QC]

Yes. It's a new proposed subsection. Thank you.

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

Maybe I could call on the clerk to clarify what you think you mean.

[A voice]

We're not clear enough.

[Blaine Calkins, Conservative, Red Deer—Lacombe, AB]

You're adding, right? You're not replacing.

[Michel Picard, Liberal, Montarville, QC]

It's an additional proposed subsection.

[Blaine Calkins, Conservative, Red Deer—Lacombe, AB]

Yes, so you're adding.

[Michel Picard, Liberal, Montarville, QC]

Yes.

[Blaine Calkins, Conservative, Red Deer—Lacombe, AB]

Okay.

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

Mr. Dubé.

[Matthew Dubé, NDP, Beloeil—Chambly, QC]

I want to clarify this. I just want to make sure. For the sake of NDP-39, I would propose that the previous ruling would no longer apply, because my amendment seeks to change proposed subsection 37(3). If we're creating a new proposed subsection 37(4), then I can still move my amendment.

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

There may be some truth to that, but let me deal with this first—

[Matthew Dubé, NDP, Beloeil—Chambly, QC]

I'm just putting that out there.

[The Chair, Liberal, John McKay]

—and then I'll deal with your concern after that.

I'm confused, and if I'm confused, this is a bad thing. Could we ask the clerk to clarify for all of us?