Mr. Chair, thank you.
I had wanted to come in with this question earlier, and maybe this is the right time to add some clarity. At the risk of not overly indulging in debate that has taken place previously and with witnesses, I wanted to ask the Department of Justice officials about the legal difference in the jurisprudence between the dissemination of propaganda and the act of counselling. If you look at it from a communications perspective—and maybe this is the sense that Mr. Motz had, and maybe clarification would be helpful to everybody here—it seems there's a sense that the dissemination of propaganda is a one-directional mode of communication such that you can stand in a town square and you can disseminate propaganda, whereas the act of counselling requires that somebody at the opposite end who is receiving information actually gives feedback to the person that's doing the counselling. That's actually a more narrow interpretation of getting somebody to engage in an act, be it terrorism or some other kind of hate crime or criminal act.
Is that a correct interpretation of the jurisprudence, or are the two things really much more closely connected than that interpretation would suggest?