Evidence of meeting #12 for Public Safety and National Security in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was rcmp.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Bob Paulson  Commissioner, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Manon Brassard  Assistant Deputy Minister, Compensation and Labour Relations, Office of the Chief Human Resources Officer, Treasury Board Secretariat

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Do we have a list of speakers?

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Erin O'Toole Conservative Durham, ON

Mr. Chair, I think our concerns have been expressed, and through the witnesses, we explored this issue from the introduction of the bill. I think this is something that RCMP management can bring forward in separate legislation beyond the collective bargaining agent elements of Bill C-7.

If the government is willing to strike clauses 40 and 42 for the purposes of Bill C-7, we appreciate their willingness and we are ready to vote.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Would anyone like to comment? I think we have had much discussion about this, but we're just going to do clause 40. That's what you're going to tell me; I can feel you doing that.

What I would like to do, then, now is ask—and I get the right wording—shall clause 40 carry?

(Clause 40 negatived)

We'll do clause 41 now, and then we'll do clause 42.

Shall clause 41 carry?

(Clause 41 agreed to )

(On clause 42)

I suspect clause 42 has had the same discussion over several meetings.

Shall clause 42 carry?

(Clause 42 negatived)

(On clause 740)

You'll notice that if we skip through to the end of the bill, we have clause 74, which implicates what we have just done. We will now have to deal with clause 74 that says,

Sections 40 and 42 come into force on a day to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council.

This is consequential, so I will then read into the record: seeing as clauses 40 and 42 have been defeated, clause 74 is also defeated as it is consequential to both these clauses.

(Clause 74 negatived)

Now we will vote. People are hungry.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Erin O'Toole Conservative Durham, ON

I have a meeting.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Is it important?

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Erin O'Toole Conservative Durham, ON

All my meetings are important.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Let's just stay here. It's a new world.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Erin O'Toole Conservative Durham, ON

It certainly is. It's good to see a strong and effective opposition.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

It is a new world that shows you how Parliament is working. It's quite wonderful.

Now I'm going to ask that we consider clauses 43 through 73. Shall they carry?

(Clauses 43 to 73 inclusive agreed to)

Now we have some enabling motions.

Shall the title carry, which is Bill C-7, An Act to amend the Public Service Labour Relations Act, the Public Service Labour Relations and Employment Board Act and other Acts and to provide for certain other measures? Such an uninteresting name compared to the old names.

1:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Shall the bill, as amended, carry?

1:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Shall the chair report the bill, as amended, to the House?

1:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Shall the committee order a reprint of the bill, as amended, for the use of the House at report stage?

1:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

I just want to check to see whether you want to present a formal motion requesting the RCMP to bring a future report or simply state that as a matter of concern.

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

I don't think I need to make a formal request.

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

I think the RCMP is very aware of some concerns we have. We probably have a long time until certification. In the meantime we will be vigilant, as we know you are. We may be asking for a more formal update on the issue of how the RCMP is handling issues of harassment.

I want to close by thanking you.

1:15 p.m.

Conservative

Erin O'Toole Conservative Durham, ON

We did it under 20 minutes?

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

We did it under 20 minutes.

I want to thank you again for your work on this bill. It is exceptional. I think we had a good debate. We will be proud to present it in the House, and it will go to third reading.

The meeting is adjourned. Thank you.