Before we vote, I take your point. I'm proud of the federal government and I'm proud of the RCMP, but I don't think that kind of emotional indignation has a role in setting good process. Good process for certification should be set according to our conception of what a good process is.
I take it you have some arguments on process that I disagree with, but I think that trying to introduce this notion that somehow we're offending the institution by asking questions about what a good process is or that we're slighting RCMP management or the federal civil service and Treasury Board to say these things may happen is wrong. We need a good process that protects people trying to organize, regardless of our feelings about the employer. I think good employers understand that, and I have confidence that RCMP management and civil service management won't take it the wrong way, Mr. O'Toole.