We talk about it. We make the decision is in the best interests of Canadian security. We look at the holistic piece. We want to make sure that Canada has secure, resilient networks that are able to operate in a way that provides confidence for our networks. At the same time, we realize that there are the tools that are needed for intelligence gathering and that there are the techniques that are required. We do have to strike a balance between understanding both sides of those coins.
At the end of the day, though, our system is designed to.... We will default to defence, meaning protecting Canada and making the decision. In reality, the decisions are much more clear-cut than that. We very rarely get something close to the edge. The decisions are very evident. If it's Canadian security, meaning releasing things for defence for purposes—protecting cybersecurity, updates, etc.—we're going to do that.
If it's something that lets us protect Canada from counterterrorism and gain proper foreign intelligence, we're going to make that decision, but we always know that, no matter what, it's going to be reviewed. We're going to respond to, right now, the CSE commissioner and, at the end of the day, the court of public opinion, if we make the wrong decision. We take in a number of factors that way.