I'll call you Jim.
The atmosphere was not what I thought it would be. The people were upset. They weren't upset necessarily at the RCMP or the system or anything else; it was more frustration, I think. For example, people were saying the criminal can come into your home and he has more rights in your home than you do. In other words, if you tried to restrain him if he was beating your wife, and he fell and broke his arm, you could be charged with assault, things of this nature. This is the reality. We're told, “Phone 911. Phone 911.” We're frustrated, and there was a lot of flustration voiced at that particular meeting. We know that the RCMP can't react fast enough. These criminals are so knowledgeable. Maybe they have training sessions when they're incarcerated, I don't know, but they certainly know what they're doing and they certainly have the average citizen, you would say, at their mercy.