Yes, absolutely. It should be wide-ranging, and it should encompass that.
I agree that there are simply too many people right now who live with a criminal record. That wall is placed in front of them and they can't get over that wall. I will go back again to the cost to society of that. Again, some of my Conservative friends will argue about the cost of doing this, but I say there's a cost of not doing it.
It's something you learn as you go. I'm a new MP—I guess I'm not that new anymore, as I'm 3.1 years in now—but I'm really starting to get a feel for some of the hot spots and sweet spots, if you will, of some things that might have happened over the last 10 years that make me pull back and ask why. What was the motivation there? When you look at the stats again, 29,829 in 2011 and 12,743 in 2015—