To be honest with you, our organization hasn't costed that out. We don't really have the access to those kinds of numbers.
All I can tell you is that if you're managing 75 offenders and you want to take them out for four hours a day, excluding phone calls and showers, there's an exorbitant cost to that and you have to have staff. We all know that the biggest cost driver in corrections is staffing. We're a people business, but I wouldn't even hesitate to guess the multimillions of dollars this type of bill is going to cost and to what extent it would end.
The cost of rehabilitation is expensive and, again, this is an ambitious program. I would hope that the minister is forthcoming with the cost because we've seen policy changes already without any resources and I've explained that to some of the members of the committee about when they made changes to CD 709 and 843, where they allowed them two hours out, and at the same time their cell effects have to be delivered to them within 24 hours. We were told that resourcing was coming for that. We've received nothing.
We're a little bit skeptical about receiving resources for this because we're doing more now with less. That's exactly what's happening in our seg units right now. We're pretty concerned about this because this is pretty ambitious.