The hard cap is virtually impossible to implement. You have to remember that we have cases in which we may be successful, after 10 or 15 days, to release the inmate back into the population, but then we can have self-harming cases or cases where inmates are extremely violent, where they go beyond the 15 or 30 days. We can't just put a hard cap on it. Each individual case is different.
If you take a look at the Burnside decision in Nova Scotia, where the judge ruled there.... I'm aware of the three decisions across the country, but even the Burnside decision said that for the most violent, volatile inmates, it becomes necessary to sometimes keep inmates in for longer periods of time.
You also have to keep in mind that some of our inmates request to be there. I can tell you that as recently as a couple of weeks ago, at Stony Mountain, we were being told to take inmates out of segregation, and inmates were saying, “No, you're not taking me out of here. This is where I live.”
We have to have some kind of a balance. Putting a hard cap in place is going to be detrimental to the inmates, and certainly to the staff's safety and security. Sometimes inmates just need to go into segregation for quiet time, and sometimes they need longer than 10 or 15 days or whatever.
There are all kinds of reasons why we can't have a hard cap. With a self-harming, volatile, violent inmate, we can't just suddenly say, “Okay, 15 days is up. We're going to send you back into a population range.” Then what's going to happen is that we're going to disrupt that entire range. We can't allow that to happen. That's why we can't agree to a hard cap.