Yes, definitely. You're speaking for the men's system. I won't speak for the men's system because I don't go into the men's prisons and I don't have that experience.
The idea of the committee was to intervene ahead of time and to come up with alternatives to prevent the use of segregation, because CSC told us that there were only eight women in segregation across the country. For eight women, we could work together to get those women out, to provide alternatives and to get them supports. For some, it might be a section 29 case: get that woman with severe mental health issues to a community treatment facility. It would greatly depend on the circumstances.
That was one option. Unfortunately, that pilot project fell flat, and CSC never followed through with it. We continue to have an interest in starting that back up.