The word “elder” gets used a lot. When it's used in a professional sense, it has a different meaning. One of the difficulties we have is that a correctional institution may have an institutional elder, and that's an elder that the correctional institution says is an elder. That's fine, but that may or may not.... It often has great meaning to inmates, but for some inmates it has no meaning because an elder is someone you choose. You don't go to “elder school” and you don't get—
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