Mr. Stanley Stapleton at the Public Safety and National Security Committee

I haven't been on core training for almost 40 years.

I would say no, at this point in time we are not. I speak from my experience of seeing new correctional officers come off core training and start interacting, and they do seem to lack those skills.

The people I represent, program officers, parole officers, teachers, and so on, naturally have those skills, but—