Thank you for that.
Let me pause you there for a second and ask the four of you this question. This is sort of embedded in your submissions.
It's the conclusion that “meaningful human contact”, to use the Mandela phrasing that was put forward by the UN, should take place throughout a person's correctional plan, not in a prescribed number of hours but really from the day of incarceration to the day of release. Is that a fair statement?