Ladies and gentlemen, I call this meeting to order.
First of all, if I could deal with a bit of committee business, the subcommittee agreed that we would call the ministers on February 25.
Could I have a mover of that motion?
Mr. Motz, thank you.
I'll just say to colleagues and witnesses that we're likely to be interrupted, but we will try to maintain as much order as possible. If the lights start flashing and the bells start ringing, etc., I may ask permission for the committee to carry on.
One of our witnesses has flown in all the way from California. We'd like to respect that.
All we have to do is just go upstairs, anyway. I don't want to—