I think there's a fundamental challenge in building out secure infrastructure and secure systems. It is very hard. To give you an example, it has taken probably the better part of 10 or 15 years to simply ensure that when you update your web browser or your operating system, it works, and we can guarantee that it works.
I say this because encryption is complicated, and any effort to undermine the few systems that are working would have devastating consequences. Unfortunately, we are seeing that this has happened in certain jurisdictions, Australia being one...and calls in other domains to do it, such as the United States for law enforcement purposes, and to a lesser extent in Canada, also for law enforcement purposes.
I think we're in a situation where it isn't just about evaluating how we can be secure. It's also about how to evaluate what we need to do. My argument, and certainly the argument of Citizen Lab, is that we need to preserve the few functional tools we have now to facilitate secure systems, rather than risk them in the pursuit of short-term law enforcement investigative pursuits.