Evidence of meeting #152 for Public Safety and National Security in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cybersecurity.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Charles Docherty  Assistant General Counsel, Canadian Bankers Association
Trevin Stratton  Chief Economist, Canadian Chamber of Commerce
Scott Smith  Senior Director, Intellectual Property and Innovation Policy, Canadian Chamber of Commerce
Andrew Ross  Director, Payments and Cybersecurity, Canadian Bankers Association
Ruby Sahota  Brampton North, Lib.
Andrew Clement  Professor Emeritus, Faculty of Information, University of Toronto, As an Individual
David Masson  Director, Enterprise Security, Darktrace

5:55 p.m.

Prof. Andrew Clement

Yes, the cables going across the ocean do present a point of vulnerability for several thousand kilometres. I know that the U.S. has the capability of pulling up those cables and splicing in and intercepting. I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians and the Chinese do as well. One of the ways to get around that is through redundancy: You build over-capacity so that if one link goes down, you have others that are working. That is the case for at least one of the cables that land in Nova Scotia—the Hibernia cable. It's a sort of loop.

I think we need to invest in redundancy to minimize the number of critical points of failure, so that if there is an attack, it is much harder for everything to come down at once, and if one thing comes down, you can reroute around it. Unfortunately, the emphasis and imperative toward efficiency and speed means that very often there's a tendency to put too many eggs in a few baskets. I'd say a general approach to security is through redundancy and duplication—and that needs to be invested in. We need to be aware of that and not discover too late that when one thing goes down, everything goes down.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Regrettably, that is going to have to be the end of our discussion with you. It's been absolutely fascinating. We appreciate your contributions to our study and wish both of you well.

With that, we'll adjourn.