Since the creation and the passing of Bill C-51 agreements, memoranda, have been exchanged between CSIS and the RCMP—two mandates, one vision 2.0—to enhance co-operation, and we've heard from experts who say that this co-operation is robust and it's healthy. We've also heard from some of your colleagues in the profession as well as in academia who say, as Mr. Whitaker did, that they accept that reduction measures are required in the current national security landscape.