Thank you.
We're going to continue now with our second panel of the day.
Just a reminder to the public who have joined us, in between or during that first meeting, that this testimony at these hearings in the afternoon is coming from our invited guests. In the evening,everyone is invited. If you would like to speak, you will be given time at the 5:30 to 7:30 meeting of our standing committee.
I just want to clarify one thing that I didn't clarify in the first hour. These consultations are separate from, but not unrelated to, the government consultations on national security, so there are parallel operations. Parliament is separate from the executive branch of government.
The government has issued a green paper and is engaged in ministerial consultations. We have access, obviously, to that green paper and we are going to make comment on it, but we are not limited to the contents of that green paper in our consultations and we're not bound to report at any particular time. However, we do want to be helpful to the minister and the government in helping them understand the views of Canadians with respect to the national security framework. That is the purpose of these hearings.
This afternoon we continue on the panel. Thank you, Senator Segal. Ron Levi and Carmen Cheung are coming to us from the Munk School of Global Affairs.
We'll begin with you two and you're sharing 10 minutes, and then we'll go to Mr. Segal.