We're back on, and we have our second set of witnesses.
From the Department of Employment and Social Development, we have Elise Boisjoly, assistant deputy minister of the integrity services branch. We also have Cyndee Todgham Cherniak, counsel for LexSage Professional Corporation.
Welcome to you both. I will call on Ms. Boisjoly to speak first, and then Ms. Todgham Cherniak.
Thanks very much.