Senator Pate, you mentioned something about rewarding wardens. One of the concerns I have in speaking to people in the system is that the programming—and we've heard testimony on this—used to be that, if you were a sex offender, you got this program. There were a number of programs, and in order to cut costs they were all lumped into one program.
The programs themselves may not be effective for people who are in the system, so rewarding someone to complete a program that isn't going to help them.... Mr. Freeland, I think you spoke to that as well, doing programming that isn't.... You touched on making sure that we have culturally appropriate programming. I wonder if you could expand on that. Also, I would give a caution that completing just any program isn't going to be effective.