Thank you both for being here today.
You're both well aware of the ministerial directives that were issued by Minister Goodale in late September with respect to the use of information obtained by torture, but for the purposes of the record and for the millions watching at home on CPAC.... I'm sorry, that was a little levity.
The rules prohibit the use, by the RCMP, CSIS, and CBSA, of information that was likely obtained through mistreatment in three main areas, except when it is necessary to prevent loss of life or significant personal injury. Use of this information is prohibited if it could lead to further abuse or torture, and with respect to information obtained through torture, it can no longer be used to prevent risks to property.
These are directives. It's not legislation that we're talking about. Could you give us your thoughts on whether the directives are good enough, or do we need these principles enshrined in law? Obviously, if they're enshrined in law they will be harder for any future government to change.