If I may, I think we have the point here. Thank you.
The second factor, of course, is he's a lifer. He is not entitled to parole at all, ever...only entitled to be considered for parole after 15 years, or that was his sentence. He may never get parole. He has to show that he's not a likely risk.
Then there's the supervision of him. He's still a lifer. He's still subject to a life sentence but he's in the community, and he has supervision of conditions, as a prisoner or offender ought to. That's under the control of the people who are responsible, the community parole officers.
We have some information that they didn't have direct contact with Mr. Gallese in this case, that there were third parties involved at this halfway house, that they had people who did things who weren't employed by Correctional Service Canada. They acted as liaisons.
What do you think of that as a method of actual supervision of an offender such as Mr. Gallese? I'm not saying him particularly, but such as him with that kind of risk and history. He's not being supervised directly by parole officers themselves.