Evidence of meeting #17 for Public Safety and National Security in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was meeting.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Mark D'Amore

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Not to comment on that, but would you be available on Wednesday?

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

What I've said is that I think we should have a discussion with all members to ensure that everybody's available to participate. I can't speak on behalf of the other members right at this very moment.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

It looks as though they're all present.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

I'm sorry. I thought you meant for Wednesday.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Yes, it's for Wednesday.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

Jack literally just said he has a conflict.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Is it the case, then, that the ministers can't come Wednesday? I'm confused. I think everybody will make themselves available for a minister. I think we should all make ourselves available for this work. We want to get down to work here. We need to have a meeting this week. If we have time on Wednesday and the ministers can't come, then, if the regular members of the committee can't make it, they get a sub. We have to do that all the time. We never consult to make sure everybody's available for a certain meeting time.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Well, I hear crickets on that.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

I'm sorry, Chair. It's probably because we actually have to all check our calendars.

4:40 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Chair, are we left up in the air here now? It's up to the chair to call a meeting and be all—

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

—and bear another public flogging, in private?

4:40 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

You had a private one once.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Did I have a private flogging?

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

It was in private, except—you know, since a couple of jabs were taken here in public.... I want to clarify that I wouldn't have raised it had it happened in private. Thanks.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Just to clarify the clarification, the call of the chair is the call of the chair and is not dependent upon the unanimity or even the majority of the committee. However, I prefer—

4:40 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Having had such a collaborative meeting today, Chair, I wouldn't spoil it if I were you.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

I know. It wound its way to collaboration at the end. It was just painful to watch.

Let's get cracking on this emergency meeting. I will talk to the clerk and see how realistic this whole thing is.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

Okay. Thanks so much, Chair.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Keep watching those emails.

The meeting is adjourned.