I would like to add that one of the challenges we've seen in the prisons during COVID-19 is a lack of access to private spaces to speak with lawyers. As well, in some of the prisons, people have been asked to submit reasons why they would need to speak with their lawyer, which would certainly go against privilege and confidentiality.
I want to clarify to everybody here that I hope none of the comments I made earlier would suggest that reform is going to change anything in the prisons designated for women. We cannot reform our way out of this particular issue.
I would also point to some of the recommendations made by Louise Arbour in the report on certain incidents at the prison for women to guide this committee's work as well.