Well, I wrote an academic paper that looked at the 10 years of the Harper government and I'm sure I can share that with the committee.
What we saw during those years was that there was a lot of tough-on-crime legislation that was put forward. The Correctional Service basically capitalized on that and asked for a lot of resources, and it got a lot of resources. We were all anticipating—at least the Correctional Service of Canada was anticipating—that they would grow significantly in terms of the inmate population. They got huge money in terms of infrastructure and also in terms of staffing. This is when we gained a lot of the staffing.
What happened was that from when the Harper government came in to when they left, the inmate population remained the same. It was basically 14,000, yet the human resources skyrocketed. We're now close to 19,000 employees for the service, and because of COVID, we're down to 12,500 in terms of the inmate population.