Evidence of meeting #102 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was vehicle.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Inspector Scott Wade  Ontario Provincial Police
Commissioner Matt Peggs  Commanding Officer of Federal Policing, Central Region, Division O (Ontario), Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Aaron McCrorie  Vice-President, Intelligence and Enforcement, Canada Border Services Agency
Martin Roach  Assistant Commissioner and Commanding Officer of Federal Policing, Eastern Region, Division C, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Brian Kingston  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association
Flavio Volpe  President, Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association

5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association

Brian Kingston

It's simple, because Canada has been targeted, where the reward to organized crime groups is high, and the risk of being prosecuted is low.

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Liberal

Peter Schiefke Liberal Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Mr. Kingston, I just pointed out that the United States, Britain and many European countries have seen significant increases. This is not a Canadian problem. Why is it that 15-year-olds, regardless of where they are around the world, are able to steal your product, which is a $45,000 product that is supposed to have the highest tech possible to protect the consumer who purchased your product and does not want to wake up one morning and see that their car has disappeared from their parking lot?

April 15th, 2024 / 5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association

Brian Kingston

Just to be clear, it is a Canadian problem. I did outline the data that shows a significant spike in theft rates in Canada compared to the United States, despite the fact we have more secure vehicles by default, so there is something unique occurring in Canada.

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Liberal

Peter Schiefke Liberal Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Mr. Kingston, I would like to point out a quote from Terri O'Brien, from Équité Association, who works to try to curb the theft of autos and to put a cost on auto thefts in Canada. They said that in the United States “Last year, they lost one million vehicles...we lost...100,000 in Canada. They're 10 times our population. Similarly, the state of California lost 100,000.... They're 38 million...[which is roughly the same population as us]”.

Are you calling them liars?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald

Thank you.

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An hon. member

Let him answer it.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald

You were just the one telling me to hurry up, and now you're telling me to let him answer. I think we know the answer.

Thank you, Mr. Kingston.

Thank you, Mr. Volpe.

Before we go, I have a couple of reminders.

I'd like to remind committee members that there will be an informal meeting with the Ukrainian delegation on Thursday from 10:15 a.m. to 11:15 a.m.

Finally, note that the visit to the Port of Montreal will be Monday, May 13. The clerk is currently working on a draft program on logistics.

We also have Bill S-210. We need to create a deadline for witnesses so that the clerk can start working on it. You can bring this back Thursday, but maybe think about it.

Yes, Alistair.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

I'm sorry, Chair, I have just a quick question.

Because I've recently made the transition, I'm just wondering if the clerk can send some of those recent deadlines to me and to Adam Moore, my assistant, so we're back up to speed on everything.

Thank you.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald

Certainly.

We're adjourned.