Thank you, Chair.
I did not definitively assert regarding what did or didn't happen in the meeting. I said that I highly suspect that Mr. Bittle is presenting, let's say, an account of the facts that differs slightly from a more objective account of the facts. If the member wants to provide evidence to the contrary....
I can say that Conservatives have, of course, asked important questions to the commissioner.
The core issue we're talking about at this point is actually the families being hurt and the families being included. It's about the testimony and the experiences of the families, not—