We have, again, repeatedly tried to give the ministers the opportunity to testify. I have for the third time explicitly proposed a motion asking that we proceed to hearing from the ministers. Three times in a row, all of the Liberal members, as well as their partners in the Bloc and the NDP, have voted against allowing the ministers to appear.
It's quite shocking that we would have two ministers here, that the agenda would say that ministers appear, but that Liberal members would move a motion to proceed to a different item to prevent the ministers from appearing, and that members would then repeatedly vote against the opportunity to hear from ministers.
Clearly, we have to address the subcommittee report. I'm very happy for us to debate the subcommittee report after the ministers...even later today. We could have debated it previously if there had been agreement to proceed to it. We can certainly debate it at the next meeting.
I am struck by, in particular, Ms. Michaud—who, as I recall, had proposed previously that this committee undertake a study of auto theft. She is now voting with the Liberals to deny herself the opportunity to ask questions to the ministers.
Ms. O'Connell may want to add herself to the speaking list. I think she's—