Thank you.
I want to turn the floor back again to the minister around upstream and downstream programs. I know you were elaborating on them. I'd like to hear if you have more to say. As Madame Michaud said, we don't have you every day at committee, so I just want to give you that space and time, please.
Just to preface this a little bit, we did hear, for example, from Keep6ix, which helps those who lived in the gang lifestyle to get out of gangs. Those types of programs are so meaningful, and I personally feel that they help make our country safer and soften the edges of the justice system and policing, which we must do. I just want to hear your thoughts on that.