Thank you for that.
My follow-up and second question is for you, sir, and also for Mr. Shull because in your opening remarks, you mentioned that provinces definitely need to be involved in this, which I found interesting. Mr. Shull mentioned, specifically, that municipalities need to be involved. I found it a little interesting that you both picked different levels of government. Maybe you could each take your time and expand on how they should be involved and why you're each seeing either more of a provincial issue or more of a municipal issue.