Public Safety Committee on June 3rd, 2024

Evidence of meeting #110 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was csis.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Bill C-70

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Charles Burton Senior Fellow, Sinopsis, As an Individual

Michael Kempa Associate Professor, Criminology, University of Ottawa, As an Individual

Sherap Therchin Executive Director, Canada Tibet Committee

Mehmet Tohti Executive Director, Uyghur Rights Advocacy Project

Balpreet Singh Legal Counsel, World Sikh Organization of Canada

Michel Juneau-Katsuya Former Chief of the Asia-Pacific Desk, Canadian Security Intelligence Service, As an Individual

Aaron Shull Managing Director and General Counsel, Centre for International Governance Innovation

Tim McSorley National Coordinator, International Civil Liberties Monitoring Group

6:30 p.m.

Bloc

René Villemure Bloc Trois-Rivières, QC

I don't have a problem with that.

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

I guess I'm asking the committee what to do here.

Let's start with—

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Chair, I think we would have time for six minutes per party. That cuts us close, but we're in the same building.

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Do we all agree to six minutes?

6:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Okay, we'll do that, then.

Mr. Shipley, please go ahead for six minutes.

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

Doug Shipley Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

Thank you.

6:30 p.m.

Bloc

René Villemure Bloc Trois-Rivières, QC

Point of order.

Would it be possible to invite the witnesses at a later date? The problem is, we don't have much time to spend with them now.

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Sorry, you're—

6:30 p.m.

Bloc

René Villemure Bloc Trois-Rivières, QC

Would it be possible to invite the witnesses again because we don't have much time with them now?

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

We can ask—

6:30 p.m.

Bloc

René Villemure Bloc Trois-Rivières, QC

I know, but we can't do actual work in—

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

We're kind of running out of time here.

Let's take it up off-line and see what we can do.

At this point, we would certainly ask the witnesses to submit additional briefs if they feel they can contribute more. We would be happy to do that. Right now we're running up against the clock here.

6:30 p.m.

Bloc

René Villemure Bloc Trois-Rivières, QC

Okay.

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Mr. Shipley, go ahead, please.

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

Doug Shipley Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

I know we're incredibly short now. We can't each have six minutes. There are 24 minutes left. It's actually 23 minutes.

What are we doing now?

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

We have no unanimous consent to proceed. We either adjourn the meeting or we suspend and come back after the vote.

What is the will of the committee?

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

Doug Shipley Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

Can we go back to the original four minutes or five minutes?

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

We need unanimous consent to do that.

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

Doug Shipley Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

I know. I'm asking that. Maybe you could ask.

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Do we have unanimous consent to go to four minutes?

6:30 p.m.

Conservative

Doug Shipley Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

That is what we originally had.

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

No.

That being the case, I'll suggest we suspend and come back after the vote.

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

I have a point of order.

If we're going to suspend and come back after the vote, can't we just go for the first few rounds and then just continue on and adjourn after that? Rather than coming back for half an hour after, we could do 15 now and 15 after.

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

That works for me.

We'll carry on with six minutes until we start to sweat, then we'll suspend and come back after the vote.

Mr. Shipley, you have six minutes.