I call this meeting back to order.
Welcome to our witnesses for the third hour—although it's been longer than that. We have, as an individual, Michel Juneau-Katsuya, former chief of the Asia-Pacific desk, Canadian Security Intelligence Service; from the Centre of International Governance Innovation we have Aaron Shull, managing director and general counsel; and from the International Civil Liberties Monitoring Group we have Tim McSorley, national coordinator.
Mr. MacGregor, go ahead on a point of order.