Ron McKinnon at the Public Safety and National Security Committee

—if the witnesses are available.

We'll carry on with a normal round.

I understand that Mr. Ling may have to leave earlier. If you do have to leave, thank you for your time, and leave when you need to. We will carry on.

We will get the full hour that we're supposed to have here, despite our problems with technology.

We'll go now to Mr. Motz for five minutes.