This is quite different in its own right, the fact that it was declared, that it was asserted by a former cabinet minister in a standing committee of a democratically operated organization. I think this is something that really takes the cake.
However, I think we also need to be really aware of the challenges that journalists are facing out in the field every day in covering protests and injunction zones. We've seen photojournalists who are having their access restricted when they're trying to go out and cover wildfires in B.C. or in Alberta. These are all part and parcel.... This is part of the shrinking press freedom environment that we're seeing. I think what Mr. Pugliese has experienced is certainly part and parcel of it, but it does give me a sense of exasperation, the degree to which these accusations were made, again, within the context of a committee. I think it was a really bad look.