You also mentioned that diplomatic...getting strength diplomatically. I recall that when we had the two Michaels incarcerated in China, at one of the hearing dates, I think 16 or 16-plus ambassadors and high commissioners from around the world who were present in Beijing showed up at the hearing to show solidarity with Canada. It might have been more. I might be using a number much lower.
Do you think this is the type of solidarity that, beyond the Five Eyes, the west or western democratically aligned countries around the world need to show in banding together to compel countries like China, India and Russia to not engage in such forms of transnational aggression? Are there any strategies that other countries might have done that have been effective?